Go Back To The Way It Was :(

[Mr.Chewbacca]

I wish this site would go back to the way it was when moore was here
.....before teknoviking

im not saying he sucks just that i think it was alot better
before him and his changes.....

what i dont get is all the kool people have left r are leaving
such as kamilek hes been here for the ,longest time
and all of a sudden he stands up and abruptly says hes out for good
i have a feeling that tek had somthing ti do with this...

i noticed instead of tech letting us talk he simply closes the thread
that is actually the first time i have ever seen a thread closed
and ive been here for more than a year now !


also can u spell A_D_M_I_N A_B_U_S_E??

[Technoviking]

Hmm or perhaps it was closed because of his pornagraphic avatar?

PS You don't have to be an admin to close threads, there are 5 other mods here that can close threads .

[Mr.Chewbacca]

Hmm or perhaps it was closed because of his pornagraphic avatar?

PS You don't have to be an admin to close threads, there are 5 other mods here that can close threads .

who had the porno avatar?

if it was closed for that reason then why didnt u warn them first with a pm
im sure they would have listen

and whjy would that be the issue? im pretty sure the people here are very
mature and old enough to understand certain avatars

there was no reason for closing that thread

[Technoviking]

Are you kidding me? Kamil had a picture of a naked girl climbing aboard a motorcycle.

Members have made it clear that polite PM's don't warrant any results. Every single time I have done that I have gotten some kind of ******* response from them.

Dude you seriously had to be paying attention to what happened to understand.

PS If you read the posts carefully you can see who closed the thread.

[Mr.Chewbacca]

kamil is the avatar king (for those who have been here a long time know this)
he comes up with some of the funiest avatars ever
( he has something with chimps for some reason)

she does not seen that naked
i saw it and said kool a hot chick with a very nice bike

[DaChrisDude]

I do NOT think "everything going on" is Technovikings fault and its a pathetic and shameless act to say so.


A wide variety of people on here have been pushing the limits of what's socially acceptable, respectful, polite, courteous, etc for some time now, and Techno was the first to finally take a stand against some of it. Good for him.

A VERY wide variety of people on here have VERY short fuses, and get riled up VERY easily over simple and unimportant issues. This has been getting worse and worse --and was so long before Techno arrived on the scene, so it's had nothing to do with him. I've been a member here for nearly two years, believe me: this started LONG before even I was arround.

A large number of contributing factors have come into play, or become more outspoken or publicly-aware, all at the same time: many people have become ruder, nearly EVERYONE has a shorter fuse, there were a number of glitches on and with the site, EVERYONE has become greedy-er and accustomed to dirt-cheap SDreef prices/customs, and a few other things --all about the time Techno stepped into the scene.

Very very little, if anything, is to be blamed on Technoviking. (and I'm not just saying this cause he's my best friend or anything, I've never even met him, and at the moment can't even remember his real name...)


Thanks Technoviking for HELPING this website stay functional.

Thanks Techoviking for HELPING this website to maintain some semblance of a civil and decent atmosphere.

Thanks Technoviking for HELPING despite the NUMEROUS prideful, arrogant, irritable, picky, complaining, whining, negative, cranky, arguing, dissatisfied, immature, selfish, confrontational, prick-ish, and otherwise NON_HELPFUL people on here.


(notice how I was able to write a mini-dissertation and didn't blame anyone in particular? I didn't call anyone any names? I didn't accuse anyone? I didn't complain and whine? I didn't drag any private matters through the streets? Now, why can't everyone do this? I really wasn't very hard!)

[Mr.Chewbacca]

ereihpmuirt hci ow tsi sad


Dont worry about a thing,
cause every little thing gonna be all right.
Singin: dont worry about a thing,
cause every little thing gonna be all right!

Rise up this mornin,
Smiled with the risin sun,
Three little birds
Pitch by my doorstep
Singin sweet songs
Of melodies pure and true,
Sayin, (this is my message to you-ou-ou

Singin: dont worry bout a thing,
cause every little thing gonna be all right.
Singin: dont worry (dont worry) bout a thing,
cause every little thing gonna be all right!

Rise up this mornin,
Smiled with the risin sun,
Three little birds
Pitch by my doorstep
Singin sweet songs
Of melodies pure and true,
Sayin, this is my message to you-ou-ou:

Singin: dont worry about a thing, worry about a thing, oh!
Every little thing gonna be all right. dont worry!
Singin: dont worry about a thing - I wont worry!
cause every little thing gonna be all right.

Singin: dont worry about a thing,
cause every little thing gonna be all right - I wont worry!
Singin: dont worry about a thing,
cause every little thing gonna be all right.
Singin: dont worry about a thing, oh no!
cause every little thing gonna be all right!

[T. VO]

I'm one of the original members on sdreefs from 2003 so I've seen the change. It's not the mods, it's the members. I agree with everything Chris said.. which is why I don't post much on here.

[alex4angela]

Hey Tech, Maybe you should create a spot for those that want to talk S#!t in a Special Forum. One that requires age verification allowing them to enter the Talk s#!t forum, keeping minors out. Just a suggestion

[GoTakuF1]

I'm one of the original members on sdreefs from 2003 so I've seen the change. It's not the mods, it's the members. I agree with everything Chris said.. which is why I don't post much on here.

I agree, well said Chris! Don't just complain about things, go out and make this a better place and contribute to good threads. If you spend all your time worrying about the 2% that's wrong with the world, you'll miss out on the 98% of what's good with the world. Unhappy forum members: be the change you want to see.

[dbrooks]

Unhappy forum members: be the change you want to see.

...or go away. I agree with Chris. I've been here for three years and there are only a handful or reasonable/respectable people left.

[SDguy]

Since this has nothing to do with sales or trades, I'm going to move this to the Site Suggestions Forum, since that is the subject matter. Oh wait, I'll probably get yelled at for that too, since I'll be "abusing my power" and trying to "keep the man down"

Seriously folks, just go make some useful reef related posts. It's amazing how quickly the drama goes away when people start actually focusing on, oh, I don't know, maybe reefing! Take this other crap to an AOL chatroom where it belongs....

[RussM]

Chris, I couldn't have said it better!

Before TechnoViking came on scene in his new system administrator role, this site was stagnant... there's been a number of nice-to-have and badly-needed improvements.
I haven't seen anything here that I would deem to be heavy-handed moderation. Anyone who thinks that the mods are overzealous should spend some time in other forums and see how easy-going it is here... RC being the predominant example. I used to use another forum (non-reef) that was so heavily policed that you couldn't even imply an expletive by using "#@!*&" or stuff like that in a post.... it would get you a stern warning from a mod.

Back in the '90s, I ran a multi-node bulletin board system (BBS). (Anyone remember Fidonet?) As the system operator, I was faced with many tough calls on when to close a thread, warn a user about conduct, ban a member, etc. Give the guys who have volunteered their time to be a mod a break... it's a thankless job in many ways.

[barometer]

Chris is da man, couldn't have put it better myself. Too many here look at this site from only their perspective as if it's not PUBLIC. If people acted here as they would in an office there would be far less issues. I have no idea what happened with Kamil and I am sad to see him go, but all this drama that's been dredged up today is just.....well......useless drama. I like the site, sometimes some of the members just suck. Time to phase out of here for a while again

[SDguy]

I'd also just like to remind everyone that, instead of leaving the site, there is a "Ignore List" available in your User CP. Very handy little tool, for anyone interested