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    Thread: Scripps NSW Triton test

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      Quote Originally Posted by newellio View Post
      lol.. i'm always around 1100 mag in my test kits as well. Whats the odds Triton got it wrong and the test kits are right?
      Well, there's this.
      https://reefs.com/2015-1/skeptical-reefkeeping-12/

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      Quote Originally Posted by newellio View Post
      lol.. i'm always around 1100 mag in my test kits as well. Whats the odds Triton got it wrong and the test kits are right?
      Triton is testing using the industry standard for water testing, ICP-OES/AES (Inductively coupled plasma optical/atomic emission spectroscopy) combined with high performance liquid chromatography (HPLC). Personally I would trust an instrument that costs between $10,000-30,000 and is operated by trained people. There is always a possibility of calibration errors and operational issues with any lab operation. If the test is run professionally those errors should be negligible.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kris View Post
      I was looking at the zero Bromine, and wondered what that might impact. Bromine is important in some biologically active molecules, (according to the internet!) but it is only a trace element that hopefully is actually in the Scripps solution and just difficult to detect?

      The larger concern imo is the Mg results of Triton v Red Sea, as others have noted. Mg is an important ion in the alkalinity ionic balance equation. Not having reliable test results (1100/1300=`85%) makes me want to toss all of the tests and just do regular water changes and keep my fingers crossed. This latter method has been proven reliably destructive for my reef tanks in the past; "What's a reefer to do?"

      I have ro/di water at home, I started using Scripps after testing mixed salt water elements and finding huge variation between salt batches, but then again I was using a Red Sea test kit to measure Mg, and dKH with Salifert.

      The best Solution contain lots of alcohol just to keep calm.
      http://rethinkingdrinking.niaaa.nih....The-Risks.aspx
      Where is the zero bromine result?

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      I started it out with LOL... it wasn't meant to be serious. my dad works for the world leader in HPLC and UPLC equipment manufacturing. I worked for the company for a long time. i know more about it than alot of folks.. I trust what triton put out. My post was meant in jest, i should have phrased it better.


      Quote Originally Posted by Tapio View Post
      Triton is testing using the industry standard for water testing, ICP-OES/AES (Inductively coupled plasma optical/atomic emission spectroscopy) combined with high performance liquid chromatography (HPLC). Personally I would trust an instrument that costs between $10,000-30,000 and is operated by trained people. There is always a possibility of calibration errors and operational issues with any lab operation. If the test is run professionally those errors should be negligible.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tapio View Post
      Where is the zero bromine result?
      It was there yesterday?, (My eyes are very crappy!) SOrry, and never mind. I'll shuttupnow,

      Ive been under a lot of stress lately, and was supposed to be home relaxing this week, but that didn't work out,...

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      Scripps NSW Triton test

      I guess my tank might be cleaner if i used salt. I just cannot get over adjusting to the mixing part i'm so lazy. But i started using the kz coral system, gonna see how that works with scripps. I just add alk and ca, sometimes mag when i water change.

      And for what it's worth, i've never had a mag titration kit i've believed in. Mag is about as loose a number as phosphate. Maybe cause they are both at the limits of the test range, phosphate being low and mag being high.

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      I could run a sample of this water on my ICP-OES at work if that would add value to this study. Easy-peezy. At least for Mg and a few other cations.

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      Quote Originally Posted by PatientZero View Post
      I could run a sample of this water on my ICP-OES at work if that would add value to this study. Easy-peezy. At least for Mg and a few other cations.
      That would be really interesting! If you can pull it off, we would all like to see the results.

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      I'm pretty new to SD and I don't actually know where to get water from Scripps (though I work in La Jolla). Perhaps we could help each other...?

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      Quote Originally Posted by PatientZero View Post
      I'm pretty new to SD and I don't actually know where to get water from Scripps (though I work in La Jolla). Perhaps we could help each other...?
      Oh definitely! Welcome to San Diego

      Here is exactly where the Scripps water is: https://www.google.com/maps/place/32%C2%B052'11.7%22N+117%C2%B015'03.4%22W/@32.869912,-117.2514862,216m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d32.86991 2!4d-117.250939

      It is on the fence there, there is a spigot for all of us to use. It is great!

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      Nice, I'll try to take care of this in the next week or two. I will update here when I have results.

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      Hey! I didn't forget about this. The chiller on my ICP went down right before the holidays and I haven't been able to get it fixed yet. I'm expecting a replacement early Feb, so I will run the water samples as soon as I am able to install the new chiller.
      Thank you for your patience.

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      The sodium was a little higher thank the curve, so I might not trust that as much. Also phosphorus was really close to the bottom of the std curve (0.1 to 1000 ppm for all elements) . The water was run in duplicate at 10x and 100x dilutions to try to cover everything. Zn, Mn, Fe, and Cu were not detected.

      Other results:
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      Na 10379*
      Mg 1196
      Ca 380
      K 440
      S 886
      P 1.22*

      Cheers!

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      Awesome, thx

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      Wow! Nice man!

      For convenience, and since I am doing it out of my own curiosity anyway, I will see how it compares to the triton test.

      I am not sure if I am reading the triton test right, I am using the numbers in the "analysis" column, i assume those are the numbers that resulted from their analysis.

      Yours/Triton
      Na 10379 / 10470
      Mg 1196 / 1309
      Ca 380 / 414
      K 440 / 390
      S 886 / 925
      P 1.22 / 16.99 (I have no idea, I think I am reading it wrong)

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