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      Ok, fine. Ill cave. Ill think about it going next year pending on what changes you make .

      Shake hands and call it a day?

      (one last note, I swear. You should read your own comments on SCR and your own emails to the vendor. Perhaps think about handling it a better next time).

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      Ok fellas so let's focus on MACNA THIS YEAR and MAX next year if I'm working and done having kids lol. I'm going to max next year I like to get out and if the fees drop to 10 bucks sweet that's 10 bucks. Saved. From 2 rickets towards another frag and hopefully we can just get these events to their maximum potential bringing the latest and greatest!

      As for the BAN of members is there a reconsideration of certain lfs/vendors like I would love to see our lfs reefers garage out there. Showing the other cities/states what we have to offer I know Vance alone does a kick ass job but we need all of our guys out there.

      As for bans there should be a actual process to it, rather than someone disliked a certain issue that ends in banning. Due process!

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      Quote Originally Posted by borg View Post
      Ok, fine. Ill cave. Ill think about it going next year pending on what changes you make .

      Shake hands and call it a day?

      (one last note, I swear. You should read your own comments on SCR and your own emails to the vendor. Perhaps think about handling it a better next time).

      If you were to ask me for a complete list of my flaws....
      I'd have to ask you first, do you want it in Alphabetical or Chronological order?

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      Quote Originally Posted by CMD2213 View Post
      Ok fellas so let's focus on MACNA THIS YEAR and MAX next year if I'm working and done having kids lol. I'm going to max next year I like to get out and if the fees drop to 10 bucks sweet that's 10 bucks. Saved. From 2 rickets towards another frag and hopefully we can just get these events to their maximum potential bringing the latest and greatest!

      As for the BAN of members is there a reconsideration of certain lfs/vendors like I would love to see our lfs reefers garage out there. Showing the other cities/states what we have to offer I know Vance alone does a kick ass job but we need all of our guys out there.

      As for bans there should be a actual process to it, rather than someone disliked a certain issue that ends in banning. Due process!

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      Just to explain (not inflame)..
      When I work my tail off for free so that someone can come in to make money at our show.....
      Let's just say I expect at least a minimal of respect (not much, but some) and when they don't, they get the boot. (well, not literally, Sigh! but I act REALLY meannnn)

      I agree this doesn't justify a "Get-Out-Of-Jail-And-Act-Like-An-Ass-For-Free-Card" BUT....
      I think the expectation of some minimal respect is self-evident in this case.
      wouldn't you agree?



      BTW, the acronym for that is GOOJAALAAFF if anyone is wity enough to run with it (I've got nothing, LOL)
      Last edited by MadMax; 05-31-2016 at 03:47 PM.

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      List of suggestions

      Get rid of the pirate, Pirate's of the Caribbean is a bit out dated...Try a nemo and Dori costume character
      Lower the prices of exhibitor booths bringing livestock. The vendors can then in turn lower prices driving hype and customers to the event.
      Most all hype for the show comes from LIVESTOCK vendors posting in local forums the items they are bringing to the show.
      Try to get free parking
      Lower the cost of entry fee IE:
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      We think with a ten dollar entry you could drive many more people to the show.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ReefersGarage View Post
      List of suggestions

      Get rid of the pirate, Pirate's of the Caribbean is a bit out dated...Try a nemo and Dori costume character
      Lower the prices of exhibitor booths bringing livestock. The vendors can then in turn lower prices driving hype and customers to the event.
      Most all hype for the show comes from LIVESTOCK vendors posting in local forums the items they are bringing to the show.
      Try to get free parking
      Lower the cost of entry fee IE:
      Senior discounts
      Military Discounts
      Family Rates
      We think with a ten dollar entry you could drive many more people to the show.
      Food Trucks for guest
      For someone who was a major pain in my arse you sure has hell THINK like me.....
      You've pretty much listed three fourths of my game plan, WTH!

      The biggest change is to drop vendor booths prices by an entire THIRD (from $900 plus down to $600) in exchange for the vendors marketing the event instead of the promoter.
      Its a radical idea but then we need radical results.

      We also intend to drop admission prices by an entire THIRD (from $15 down to $10) in exchange for the attendees cleaning up after the show (Ok, Ok, I'm just kidding about the cleanup part.....maybe)
      But you ae correct that a price point of $10 may very likely attract more people.

      Free Parking? Since OCFEC controlls the parking fees there is ziltch I can do about that, so guess what?
      I'm going to move MAX to a building that is much CLOSER to the free parking (near the swap meet)
      As I said...Radical

      Senior discount and Military Discount: Been doing that since day One
      Family Discounts: Ok now you're talking crazy talk (must be those garage fumes)
      No really, kids under 12 have always been free, its pretty much our bench mark

      Nemo and Dori costume characters: are you volunteering???
      garage fumes optional ;o)
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      Quote Originally Posted by Squid View Post
      Have you posted this on other forums? You might be able to get some more responses and feedback on some of the other more active and larger forums.
      Speaking of which, I couldn't help but notice the lack of traffic on SDReefs. Is not the MACNA crowd being directed to this site or are they being routed elsewhere?

      Do you guys WANT more traffic, or do you prefer to keep it small, quaint and simple (within the SD community)?

      Ive been a member for an entire decade but only to a minimum since I live in Orange County. I am a Platinum member at Barona, however, does that count? : )

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      Hah! That's great, I am going to try that with my co-workers

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      Quote Originally Posted by MadMax View Post
      Speaking of which, I couldn't help but notice the lack of traffic on SDReefs. Is not the MACNA crowd being directed to this site or are they being routed elsewhere?

      Do you guys WANT more traffic, or do you prefer to keep it small, quaint and simple (within the SD community)?

      Ive been a member for an entire decade but only to a minimum since I live in Orange County. I am a Platinum member at Barona, however, does that count? : )
      Why do you go all the way to Barona?? Seems kinda far from Orange County


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      Their give-away incentives are unmatched by any other casino. I get a free Norwegian cruise every year for starters, VIP parking, match play coupons that are in the $100 range, not $5-$25 like all the rest. Free meal comps all the time.....speaking of which, their buffet has free all-you-can-eat crab legs that will knock-your-socks-off!

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      I haven't had the chance to attend a show yet so I can't really speak on it...I think the price at 15$ is fair considering all the crap they have to do... I really do think that local vendors WILL drive traffic up to the show.... I saw what happen to a local vendor getting ban(and the emails) and that kinda made me not what to go.... Now to ban a vendor who doesn't want to attend or CANT attend is wrong...like you said put yourself in his shoes... He has to close up his shop on a weekend (your words""Bread and butter") and travel couple hours with a s$$t load of livestock to another location in hopes to sell everything and make a few bucks..how about if he doesn't sell enough to cover the cost..will you be buying the rest of his livestock to make up the cost?? I'm sure your not ...maybe his funds was just enough for his bills and couldn't take the chance on not putting food on the table for a day!! Just my personal opioin cause it's always 2 sides on a story

      I went to your website and its not too user friendly I couldn't see any recent pics of last years shows, Try to freshen up your website with more info like what where to park,recent pictures,and what vendors have to offer.maybe even what foods are around. Even a few picture so corals from vendors

      Not sure if this is already there but if I go I'll like to see some of these things....
      Local stand builders? Or maybe references on where to get custom stands for your area
      Coupons for local shops or online stores that can only be given at max (like free shipping on any purchase from a online vendor or 40% off corals from online vendors..etc none of that 10% off BS lol
      Equipment that has been discontinued at a fraction of cost.maybe even use equipment in good shape.. A lot of us are budget reefers and don't have 500$ for a good light or a 400$ skimmer......
      food .. Food ...food ....food.or a snack bar I get in a bad mood when I'm walking for 5/6 hours with no food lol

      maybe a booth with books or brochures on algae control,dipping corals,how to pick right stock for your tank,how to set up a basic tank, disease,what to look for in buying a fish etc. most of us know but some people (wife's,kids) may not know and this might give them a little kick to start there own tank,all thanks to your show! I'm sure people will return for reasons like that ....

      Again I haven't been to a max show yet so not sure if some of these things are there already,but if I drive for 2/3 hours just to see a bunch of corals over price, equipment that that you can't get lol (comes out next year BS) or have to drive around to find a spot to eat ...I for sure not going to attend shows after that .... Good luck with the show

      Regardless i hope to make it out there next year.....
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      Quote Originally Posted by cHRoNzZe View Post
      I haven't had the chance to attend a show yet so I can't really speak on it...I think the price at 15$ is fair considering all the crap they have to do... I really do think that local vendors WILL drive traffic up to the show.... I saw what happen to a local vendor getting ban(and the emails) and that kinda made me not what to go.... Now to ban a vendor who doesn't want to attend or CANT attend is wrong...like you said put yourself in his shoes... He has to close up his shop on a weekend (your words""Bread and butter") and travel couple hours with a s$$t load of livestock to another location in hopes to sell everything and make a few bucks..how about if he doesn't sell enough to cover the cost..will you be buying the rest of his livestock to make up the cost?? I'm sure your not ...maybe his funds was just enough for his bills and couldn't take the chance on not putting food on the table for a day!! Just my personal opioin cause it's always 2 sides on a story

      I went to your website and its not too user friendly I couldn't see any recent pics of last years shows, Try to freshen up your website with more info like what where to park,recent pictures,and what vendors have to offer.maybe even what foods are around. Even a few picture so corals from vendors

      Not sure if this is already there but if I go I'll like to see some of these things....
      Local stand builders? Or maybe references on where to get custom stands for your area
      Coupons for local shops or online stores that can only be given at max (like free shipping on any purchase from a online vendor or 40% off corals from online vendors..etc none of that 10% off BS lol
      Equipment that has been discontinued at a fraction of cost.maybe even use equipment in good shape.. A lot of us are budget reefers and don't have 500$ for a good light or a 400$ skimmer......
      food .. Food ...food ....food.or a snack bar I get in a bad mood when I'm walking for 5/6 hours with no food lol

      maybe a booth with books or brochures on algae control,dipping corals,how to pick right stock for your tank,how to set up a basic tank, disease,what to look for in buying a fish etc. most of us know but some people (wife's,kids) may not know and this might give them a little kick to start there own tank,all thanks to your show! I'm sure people will return for reasons like that ....

      Again I haven't been to a max show yet so not sure if some of these things are there already,but if I drive for 2/3 hours just to see a bunch of corals over price, equipment that that you can't get lol (comes out next year BS) or have to drive around to find a spot to eat ...I for sure not going to attend shows after that .... Good luck with the show

      Regardless i hope to make it out there next year.....
      Well said bro.

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