These are Chinese pumps and Jebeo will do a group buy. If we can get enough people in on it. I spoke to them last year and I think the price on the wp25 is $30 to $60 depending on how many are ordered. these pumps are so nice for the price even if they fail prematurely. They are way cheaper then the Vortech. I cant justify spending $800+ on Vortechs. Lets get a group buy together. I am not trying to hijack your thread. I just like the idea of saving money. I will put it together or if someone else wants to that is fine by me.I want 2.