Bad dealings with Livinlocal- Buy with caution!!!
It all started with this (click) then I threw out a warning out here (click again)
Just so there's no false pretense here and for everyone to see how things went down, here are the cliffnotes leading up to this, the rock went up several months ago and there was a fair amount of interest on the rhodactis mushrooms (myself included). I offered to help him make some trimmings by letting him use some of my equipment, but (even though the rock only had softies) he said he didn't want to stress out the corals by moving it. So when I saw that a buddy wanted the sinularia (or nepthea -potato/potato) I reached out and we decided to go halves (neither wanted the xenia though). I told Livinlocal the plan with the rock and that I'd pick up the whole thing. When he finally got back to me he said he'd just removed his other sinularia so he decided to keep said piece, I told him that was fine but to LMK if he changed his mind. Weeks later he got at me and said he wanted to sell it again, so I reached out to the other reefer who was still down, and shortly there after picked up the rock. When I picked it up I saw it as a large rock with xenia, a large piece of sinularia and some mushrooms (I did not inspect or count said mushrooms as I trusted that what he said/posted was correct).
I picked up the rock, went straight to the other reefers house, chipped off the sinularia and went home to discover there were only 6 mushrooms on the whole piece (5 on the rock and 1 that we chipped off from the chunk that came off with the sinularia). I texted Livinlocal pics and told him my findings and offered for him to come over and see my tanks and what was left of the rock so he could tell I wasn't trying to get one over on him.
There was a lot of back and forth to no real resolution and at a certain point I chalked it up to having paid more than expected on some shrooms and was tired and ready to just walk away, but then I saw that he was selling the same rhodas on other pieces so I messaged this
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Originally Posted by inurmind
You keep saying I should have checked the rock before leaving your house, but you posted there was 10+ in the op. Sure I guess my bad for trusting your word but bad form on posting not the actual amount of shrooms and misleading myself and everyone else.
I just saw you also posted that you have 30 more mushrooms on another rock... I don't understand why when I told you that there was less than you posted, why you didn't offer to make it right by giving me another shroom or two from your other stash???
I've never dealt with someone that had such a painless solution to a problem but still dragged things out.
This is his response almost a month later:
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Originally Posted by Livinlocal
Your response is comical, are you really that naīve? Yes I have 30 more of the exact same mushrooms, but does that mean I'm going to take that rock out of my display and cut them up for you? No, I offered you a refund, and that's all you'll get. I'm not going to accommodate you because you are looking to get more from me and to make a dollar off of me. I was nice enough to offer a full refund even though you already cut the mushrooms off the rock, and you declined. You bought a combination right, you did not buy a rock that had 10 mushrooms on it. You bought a rock that had a bunch of different corals on it that could not easily be numbered. Anyways I am done going back-and-forth with you, like I said, I offered you a full refund and you declined. Suit yourself.
1. You knew and agreed to us splitting the piece from the start, not exactly trying to "make a dollar"
2. You keep tossing around "refund" when you know that wasn't a feasible and fair option, nor did I ever "decline".
3. "You did not buy a rock that had 10 mushrooms on it... You bought a rock that had a bunch of different corals on it that could not easily be numbered.".?!????????:
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Originally Posted by
Livinlocal
I'm just trying to clear some room in my tank so I'm seeing if there is any interest in this rock. It has a huge neon green sinularia, pulsing Xenia, and 10+ of these cool mushrooms that are 2"
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Originally Posted by Livinlocal
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Originally Posted by inurmind
So you think there's 10+ of those rhodas on there?
Yes, And there might even be more than 10.
At the end of the day I just wanted what I paid for and nothing else (also never asked for any "sps" and Idk where he keeps getting that from) but moreover this was teetering on bait-and-switch! You can sit there and act all high and mighty and call me "childish" and toss around the phrase "refund" all you want but that doesn't change a thing. You posted something that was not true and did not stand by your sale (also quite a coincidence I hear he was selling those same shrooms shortly after all this). I am done with this headache and will never deal with this guy again.
I've been on here for years and in that time I've bought corals from many of you and I've sold corals to many of you, but I have never had such foul dealings like this. I do indeed feel like it's my responsibility to try and make sure he doesn't scam another fellow sdr member. The fact is that the reefers on the forum deserve better than this and I hope this gets read by all.