46bow in the works

[JeromeBaker]

Here's my 46 bow that I transferred to last week from a 26bow. I'm still gonna put about 50 pounds more of live rock and obviously some more corals. That's were you guys come in. ANy help is appreciated. Pm if you have any frags you want to get rid of or sell.

[elgordoinavw]

dude I like the way that you set it up. I wouldn't add anymore LR I would just spend the money on a nice coral. Very clean looking

[JeromeBaker]

Gracias. Its a work in progress but I'm happy with how its coming along. Definitely going with some more live rock though. I want it wall to wall. I'll keep you guys updated. WHo has frags for me? Or live rock?

[JeromeBaker]

Built a new fuge tonight. I'm pretty happy with it. I also got everything else I needed to complete the package(return pump, return spout, and whole bunch of other stuff). I also got an overflow box. Check it out.

[JeromeBaker]

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[JeromeBaker]

Yeah man I wanted to talk to you and see if I could get some of that from you. Yeah I'm excited to get it up and going I havnt had a refugium before. We'll see how it goes. Next is a protein skimmer.

[chilly05willy]

hey, if you want macro, I got a lot here :)

[JeromeBaker]

I'm going to grab some macro from Chap but thanks. do you have any frags you want to sell?

[MarLooney]

looks like your design only allows for a few verticle inches of fuge space. am i missing something?

[JeromeBaker]

Yeah you missed something alright.........Naw man those are just dividers. Check it out.

[JeromeBaker]

Moved around some rock to cover up the overflow. I'm gonna get 50 more pounds of figi to fill the right side. Water still milky I just finished.

[elgordoinavw]

screw a PS your using a fuge now!!!

[JeromeBaker]

Screw a Protein Skimmer? Why do you say that? I know that they do almost the same thing but you think I should do without one? I dont know man. I think I'm still going to run one.

[chilly05willy]

I like your aquascaping :) its looking awesome! Keep it up, and keep us updated!

Will

[JeromeBaker]

Here's my plan.

Still need:

50 pounds of figi
protein skimmer
Canopy
2 150w DE HQI metal halides
retro my current 96w PC's in the canopy with the MH's

[JeromeBaker]

This is what it looks like today after adding the refugium, overflow box, and rearranging the rock to cover the overflow and prepare for 50 more pounds.

[MarLooney]

your fuge design is still flawed IMO. you should've made that last devider taller so that it flows over that one into the return section of the fuge. that way if the over flow ever gets clogged or stops for any reason then your fuge will only empty out the last chamber instead of almost your whole fuge which will be more likely to fill your tank to the point it overflows onto your floor. just my two cents... anyone else got an opinion on that one.

[Mike N]

What Marlo said :)

[JeromeBaker]

That would suck.

[nalbar]

simple fix. just disconnect your fuge and silicone an extension on the last divider.

it is all determined in how much water is in your tank when the overflow clogged up. your fuge looks pretty small, just keep your tank level low enough to absorb its water.

as far as the PS, i am going with both a PS and a fuge on my 80. like yours the fuge goes in first. a PS is your FIRST line of defense against algae. just because you have one does not mean it runs 24/7.


nalbar

[JeromeBaker]

My solution to preventing a flood will be staying on top of my system. Making sure everything is clean on a daily basis(I do that anyway). As for the protein skimmer, gotta have one.

[MrKrispy]

Do you work at home?


Originally posted by JeromeBaker
My solution to preventing a flood will be staying on top of my system. Making sure everything is clean on a daily basis(I do that anyway). As for the protein skimmer, gotta have one.

[JeromeBaker]

Yeah I do work out of my house.

[JeromeBaker]

Thanks Chap for the Caulerpa, I appreciate it. I also figured out the solution to my fuge flaw. I actually think its a better solution anyway. I ordered a float switch tonight that I will wire to the return pump, I will set it to shut the pump off once the water has filled my display tank to the brim. I will set it far enough below the water line so it wont shut off from evaporation and this way I wont burn out the pump in the event the overflow gets clogged.

[brahm]

Yea, protien skimmer is still a good idea with a fuge, I'm running two seprate fuges (sump and hob, and a very large protein skimmer as well) It's going to take alot of algie to keep absorb keep your tank clean.. Although there are plenty of people who go skimmerless so it can be done.

[JeromeBaker]

Yeah that's what I was thinkin. I see it done all the time. Brahm your tank is awesome.

[JeromeBaker]

Has anyone ever used the RedSea Berlin Turbo skimmers? I'm thinkin about going with one of those.

[brahm]

go with ASM, Cheap work great. Thanks for the complimant btw. BlueLagon got me a killer deal on the ASM skimmers. Octopus Gadern sells them as well, they are basically Cheaper quality Euro-Reefs but unless your planning on using it as a keg stand, They hold up just fine.

[Don Vito]

On that overflow box. Do they start right (drain) up again if the power goes off and then back on again?

Tank looks awesome. Love how you stacked the LR. Makes me want to redo mine :(

[JeromeBaker]

Brahm: I was thinkin about one of those. THe ASM skimmer's look great, although I would like it to double as a keg stand I guess I could find something else for that. DO you know what the footprint is on one of those. The chamber that it would have to go in is 7"x 12".

DonVito: I think your question was; If the power goes out and then back on will the overflow go back to siphoning water out of the tank and into the sump? The answer would be yes. Cause I know if I unplug the return pump and plug it back in, the overflow box goes right back to work. Was that your question or am I way off?

[brahm]

Originally posted by JeromeBaker
Brahm: I was thinkin about one of those. THe ASM skimmer's look great, although I would like it to double as a keg stand I guess I could find something else for that. DO you know what the footprint is on one of those. The chamber that it would have to go in is 7"x 12".

DonVito: I think your question was; If the power goes out and then back on will the overflow go back to siphoning water out of the tank and into the sump? The answer would be yes. Cause I know if I unplug the return pump and plug it back in, the overflow box goes right back to work. Was that your question or am I way off?

They come in all diffrent size's I have a g3 which is the largest one I could fit in my sump (which is a 29 gallon tank)..

here is a list of sizes
http://www.aquatic-creations-online.com/filters.htm

[JeromeBaker]

Not even the smallest one will fit. I think I'm going to go with a RedSea Berlin Turbo. Who knows though?.....After buying another 50 pounds of live rock, I'm done spending on this thing for a couple of weeks.

[JeromeBaker]

took a couple pics today.

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[Don Vito]

Originally posted by JeromeBaker
Brahm: I was thinkin about one of those. THe ASM skimmer's look great, although I would like it to double as a keg stand I guess I could find something else for that. DO you know what the footprint is on one of those. The chamber that it would have to go in is 7"x 12".

DonVito: I think your question was; If the power goes out and then back on will the overflow go back to siphoning water out of the tank and into the sump? The answer would be yes. Cause I know if I unplug the return pump and plug it back in, the overflow box goes right back to work. Was that your question or am I way off?

Ya thats what I mean. I was just wondering if it would start right back up again. I have a CPR Overflow box and I don't want to use it cause, well it scares me :)

I have heard some horror stories of overflow boxs and the one thing I dont like is water all over my house, even worse when your upstairs :( Imagine trying to explain that to your Insurance Agent.

[JeromeBaker]

LOL.........yeah I hear you. You'll only have a problem if the syphone is broken. To do that youd have to get air in the utube. I wouldnt worry.

[JeromeBaker]

cool closeup pic

[JeromeBaker]

maroon clown.

[surf4ever]

nice pics.. nice like a JBD double bubble

[JeromeBaker]

ahhahaha thanks

[JeromeBaker]

I need to add some snails to clean the glass and do what they do but I had two questions; first what are the best ones to get for a reef? and second will my hermits kill them for their shells?

[chilly05willy]

get them at any LFS, they're a buck each. If they fall off the glass and land on their shell, the hermits will get kill them. Just flip them over when you see one on its back, or your hermits will have a good meal ;)

[JeromeBaker]

yeah but what kind? I just ask for the dollar snails?

[JeromeBaker]

My green polyps are starting to look really bad, almost as if something is eating small pieces from them. All my water is fine. WHat could it be?

[PonE619]

Do you have lots of pods? That could be it

[Mike N]

1. Live stock
what animals are you keeping?

2. Flat Worms
Any seen?

;)

[JeromeBaker]

I have 1 maroon clown, 3 green chromis, 15 hermits, 1 cleaner shrimp, and introduced today a lemonpeel angel. I hate to say it but I think flat worms tagged along with some macro I got or at least some sort of interesting little worms. Does anyone have a pic of what they look like?

[JeromeBaker]

Quick update. Added 60 pounds of live rock(50 main, 10 refugium), redid the plumbing to accomidate a larger pump and for the purpose of better circluation (2 returns instead of one). I finally got a protein skimmer, the berlin I was looking for. Ended up just buying one new. Hopefully I'll be grabbing a canopy off of SD619 tonight to accomidate a couple 150w 10k HQI's I ordered from Hellolights.com. Got new PC bulbs for my current setup(2x96w) that will also be retroed in with the MH's. Added a lemon peel angel and a diamond goby last week also. Next is a calcium reactor and a chiller. Any recommendations?

[JeromeBaker]

I know I remember you saying how much you liked your calcium reactor. I was hopin you would chime in. What did that bad boy set you back? I want to get the chiller just to be safe. I'm lookin at one that will cool and heat so my temp will maintain where I want it. Other than that not a whole lot more I can do only a whole lot of corals to buy.

[JeromeBaker]

I'm probably going to get whatever is available locally. I dont have a ton of space to work with so I need to see em before I buy em. The chiller's one thing that can hang out on the floor and look semi decent but a calcium reactor needs to be hidden IMHO. I'll probably order the chiller in the next couple of days and look for a nice Calcium Reactor locally to come up on too. I just want this thing finished. I hate stringing things out. I'm getting allot closer now though. It looks like two more orders.

[JeromeBaker]

I'll have to check it out.

[GEFRANKLE]

When you get your chiller put it on a thick foam pad. When I did this with mine it got much quieter. I have a 1/4 HP Via Aqua (about $300 on ebay) I bought mine used frome a guy for $200.

George

[JeromeBaker]

Thats a really good deal for a 1/4 horse. I have a total of 60 gallons of water so that would more than suffice. Thanks that might be the one I end up with. Much better than the $500 plus chillers have been lookin at. But does it heat too?

[GEFRANKLE]

I have 90 to 100 gallons of water. It does not heat but heaters are cheap and you dont use them much in SD. If you would like to see the thing let me know.

George

[JeromeBaker]

this might be a clearer pic I just found.

[JeromeBaker]

diamond goby went crazy. I saw him sitting on the sand, then he burst upward sailing out of the tank, launched over the overflow box, somehow magically landed in the 1 1/2" downpipe on the external portion of the overflow box and ended up in the sump. Crazy *******. I think it was because my maroon clown has been pushin him around.

I also got a new skimmer. I just ordered a berlin last week I was about to install it yesterday and my girlfriend suprised me with a euroreef. So the berlins going back. Gotta love her.

[nalbar]

which euroreef?


nalbar

[JeromeBaker]

es52. I havnt hooked it up yet but have heard good things so we'll see tonight.

[JeromeBaker]

THis is what it looks like now after taking out all the rock and rebuilding thanks to a trouble fish.

You can see the new plumbing in the middle. I like it allot better. The new skimmer is awesome too.

[obarrera]

Do you have any more pics,I like your tank.:cool:
How many fish do you have in there?

[JeromeBaker]

I have 6 fish. 1 maroon clown, 1 Flame angel, 1 Diamond goby, and 3 green chromis. Heres another pic the same but different.

[obarrera]

How much did you pay for the flame angel?I want one but im afraid to buy it and then what if it gets sick and dies,sometimes I think about that cause there's some fish that are beautiful but you buy them and they could die in less then 6 days.:(

[JeromeBaker]

I paid $30 for him. I got him from "M.Parkis" and he is super healthy and rad looking. Super bright.

[JeromeBaker]

Do you think 2 150w HQi's could be mounted safely in a plastic canopy? I'm having trouble ordering a wooden one from Ron at O.G. and I see these plastics ones but I dont know if I could trust it with the metal halides in there. I would say no but I wonder if any of you have had success doing this.

[REEFWAVE]

any luck with star polyps, mine have kinda thined out as well and there are like caves through the matt. i have never even considered somthing might be eating at them untill now. if it turns out to be flatworms or somthing else what can be done.

[JeromeBaker]

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[REEFWAVE]

Originally posted by JeromeBaker
My green polyps are starting to look really bad, almost as if something is eating small pieces from them. All my water is fine. WHat could it be?

im sorry im retarded, when i skimmed over this thread last night i thought this was star polyps you were talking about....sorry thanks for the little picture i got a good laugh out of it.... nice tank by the way looks to be coming along nicely....
-chris-

[JeromeBaker]

Thanks bro. Ive been known to do the same thing, no worries. Thanks for the compliment too, I appreciate it.

Chris I sent you a pm.

[joe_bui]

Nice Tank! I like your rock work...


Joe

[REEFWAVE]

i tried to reply but it said your box is full so i just copy and pasted the message to word to save untill you can make some room. lol

[JeromeBaker]

Joe_bui: thanks man I appreciate the compliment

ReefWave: My box is all freed up now. Sorry about that.

[JeromeBaker]

I installed 2 150w 20K HQi's in pendants over my tank today. WHat a difference. I will post pics hopefully tonight. I used to hear people talk about the shimmer and had no idea what the F they were talking about. Now I do;)

[joe_bui]

So does that mean you still have one 150W HQI left? ;)


Joe

[JeromeBaker]

Damn emerald crab kicked the bucket. It looks like I'll be taking out the rocks with the turf algae and blasting them with a torch. Ive heard of it being done, any of you ever use this method?

[colindoug3]

a frickin torch? damn, people advised I not scrub with a medium toothbrush.

[MrKrispy]

JeromeB, did you install in the plastic hood? Cause my 250W pendant gets around 200 degrees F.

How long did you have the emerald???

[JeromeBaker]

Colindoug: I will only torch 3 pieces. As long as the algae's gone I'm happy. Not to concerned about killing the rock, it'll be alive before I know it.

Mr. Krispy: I dont think I'm catching the point of your first comment. But for lighting I have two 150w HQi's in an aluminum housing.

I had the crab for a couple of weeks. After moving around some stuff I realized that what I thought was my dead emerald was only a piece of live rock. So he's still in there somewhere.

[MrKrispy]

Originally posted by JeromeBaker
Do you think 2 150w HQi's could be mounted safely in a plastic canopy? I'm having trouble ordering a wooden one from Ron at O.G. and I see these plastics ones but I dont know if I could trust it with the metal halides in there. I would say no but I wonder if any of you have had success doing this.


Umm I think this is what I was referring to....but you just said they are in aluminum so...

[JeromeBaker]

Of course, of course, I knew that. Yeah I decided to pass on the plastic canopy thing. Had I gone through with it I would have felt like a half ass so I opted not to do it.

[JeromeBaker]

++++Advice Needed+++++

I have various different zoos in my tank all very healthy except for one particular colony. The "greens". I suspect it is not looking to good because it is overgrown. This was my first coral and has been moved around more times than I can count and because of this, the whole rock is covered with polyps. I recently had to move it because the MH were grilling it and now in its new spot because of the coverage on the rock it is sitting on top of some polyps. I assume that because some of the coral is being smashed this doesnt promote optimum health. Should I break out the hammer and smash it into smaller pieces and then mount those pieces to larger rocks so each polyp has more room to grow? What should I do?