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lpskeeper
03-31-2012, 07:12 PM
40 breeder

Lighting
150watt mh de unknown bulb
2 24 watt t5 ati blue blus gisman 20k

Water movement
Mp10
Korola 1
Korola 3
Return pump rio 1200g

Skimmer
Bubble Magnus nac6a

Tlf reactor gfo

Bublble Magnus dosing pump ca mag Alk

Water parameters
Cal 420
Alk 7
Mag 1270
Po4 0.07
Salinity 1.026
Ph 8
Have a chiller as well
Top off ro by hand

lpskeeper
03-31-2012, 07:26 PM
I had po4 get way out of hand 0.40 had brown outs srtn so I got a Hanna meter and gfo. I had 10 fish in my 40 breeder and carbon dosed. But now I only have 4 fish and some shrimp and what not. Got po4 sitting around 0.07

I'm removing my sand bed going bare bottom. To help bring po4 down more. Any more advice on sps equipment thing I should upgrade.

lpskeeper
03-31-2012, 07:38 PM
Also I had a heater fail and tank dropped to 70 and that caused a bad week for my tank but a new heater and some water changes and stuffs coming back

lpskeeper
03-31-2012, 08:53 PM
http://mob1157.photobucket.com/albums/p586/chaseonbass1/1333305263.jpg?t=1333305264


http://mob1157.photobucket.com/albums/p586/chaseonbass1/1333305598.jpg?t=1333305599

lpskeeper
03-31-2012, 09:19 PM
can any one id these next two
http://mob1157.photobucket.com/albums/p586/chaseonbass1/1333305796.jpg?t=1333305798
http://mob1157.photobucket.com/albums/p586/chaseonbass1/1333305723.jpg?t=1333305724

lpskeeper
03-31-2012, 09:30 PM
so any advice on getting po4 down more.

any idea for a id on the two bottom frags.

lpskeeper
03-31-2012, 11:07 PM
Can u see these pics?

skratchiechan
03-31-2012, 11:13 PM
no I cant see on my end... as far as phosphates I would go with biopellets

naso tang
03-31-2012, 11:43 PM
no I cant see on my end... as far as phosphates I would go with biopellets

I don't know if I'd do that with an NAC6a skratch. You've got to pull alot of bacteria out with your skimmer, and the NAC6A fills up pretty fast even when you aren't doing biopellets...it's a pretty good rating for a 40g though...

just my opinion, I ran biopellets for awhile but some sps just didn't like it, and when I stopped using them after 6-8 months I had somewhat of a tank crash. But my phosphates are probably high too since I stopped...lps keeper, use photobucket or some other image storage, and then paste your [IMG] code into your post to display pix

skratchiechan
04-01-2012, 01:17 AM
I don't know if I'd do that with an NAC6a skratch. You've got to pull alot of bacteria out with your skimmer, and the NAC6A fills up pretty fast even when you aren't doing biopellets...it's a pretty good rating for a 40g though...

just my opinion, I ran biopellets for awhile but some sps just didn't like it, and when I stopped using them after 6-8 months I had somewhat of a tank crash. But my phosphates are probably high too since I stopped...lps keeper, use photobucket or some other image storage, and then paste your [IMG] code into your post to display pix

I see I'm using a aqua c ev 240 with an extra waste container so it isn't a problem with me :)

I'm pleased to see that my nitrate are near undetectable from my old tank which was in the range of 20-35ppm

we will see if my sps likes it!

naso tang
04-01-2012, 08:36 AM
Yeah, youve got a big system too, when you've got the pellets working, colors can be good. Look at bogg and sdguys tank, they know what theyre doing with zeovit and vodka dosing...good luck!

lpskeeper
04-01-2012, 10:05 AM
Ya I ran bio pellets on my old tank I had zero every thing growth and color where great. My stand was really getting bad water damage and wood rot. So I through all my stuff into a 40 breeder and got cyano from the transfer. Pulled the bio pellets and cyano disappeared. Got bright wells bio fuel and mb7 trites and nitrates went to zero but po4 never came around. I had a ton of fish so I got rid of most down two 4.

Mystery wrasse
Melurus wrasse
Tail spot Benny
Starry Benny

Wana get to the point I don't need gfo.

lpskeeper
04-01-2012, 10:10 AM
The bubble Magnus really that crappy of a skimmer?
It's rated up to 150 gallons and it's on my 40 gallon lol I thought that be perfect. It pulls some gunk out it.

naso tang
04-01-2012, 11:21 AM
It's not a crappy skimmer, I like mine, I just wouldn't put it on a 150g the way I stock. Right now mine's on my 75G and it's pretty good with super high stock levels (7 fish, lots of sps and lps). When you run biopellets though, your reactor output should go directly into the skimmer, and so much bacteria colonizes the pellets that your skimmate pretty much doubles. So if the NAC6a is rated at 150G (more like 100G light load realistically), you'll be pushing it on your 40 depending on your stock levels and how much microbacter or whatever bacteria you might dose would be. On this theoretical calculation though, you could maybe go to 50G with biopellets. And my point is actually more related to the size of the NAC6a skimmer cup, than how good it skims. I have to waste my skimmer cup about every three days, even when I'm skimming dry. reduce that to 1.5 days if I were running biopellets.

Biopellets require a balance between pellet surface area, flow, and growth of the bacterial colony. So while the bacteria help reduce dissolved organics from the water column, they also contribute to it in the form of bacteria in the water column to maintain that super low nutrient environment by carbon dosing. And sometimes you get nice cyano blooms when there isn't enough colonization on the pellets to consume all the carbon.

lpskeeper
04-01-2012, 11:29 AM
Ya I'm just trying to figure out my po4 where it's coming from.
Also my mp10 is hella loud now going to get a tunze wave box and some tunze streams for flow.

naso tang
04-01-2012, 11:33 AM
water water are you using for water change and ATO?

lpskeeper
04-01-2012, 12:02 PM
Ro from gills

Salt water changes 5 gallons week two days in a row I change 2 and a half gallons

naso tang
04-01-2012, 01:26 PM
Never used gills but one time I got some water from a local store here and when I got a TDS meter, I never bought it again. The TDS matched tap. Might want to consider getting an RO/DI to get down to 0 TDS, that would certainly help and you can get units that work reasonably well from ebay for <$100

http://www.ebay.com/itm/0PPM-Portable-100GPD-Reverse-Osmosis-RO-DI-Filtration-/380341933047?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item588e2553f7

lpskeeper
04-01-2012, 01:56 PM
His sps tank has no po4 problem and he uses his own ro
Wouldn't that be a prob for him

naso tang
04-01-2012, 02:00 PM
would be if he didn't have massive refugiums. I don't know, most people who want to keep sps use ro/di, not just ro. RO will have TDS somewhere around 20 when your filter is working I think...on the other hand, I used glacier water with no testing on PO4 (other than API) for a year or two and had great color on my sps. But I also had a fuge as well.

lpskeeper
04-01-2012, 02:59 PM
His sps tank doesn't have one though just his fish only and what not.

Ya I know it's time I get one cause I'm sick of just going to have to get top water

lpskeeper
04-01-2012, 03:12 PM
His sps tank doesn't have one though just his fish only and what not.

Ya I know it's time I get one cause I'm sick of just going to have to get top water

lpskeeper
04-02-2012, 02:06 PM
Got a Rodi unit spectra 60 one with gadge and Tds metter built in.

lpskeeper
04-07-2012, 07:51 PM
Switched from nsw to red sea pro salt mix. And my new Rodi to prevent po4. Hope fully I can get it down more with out gfo.
Po4 down to 0.08 with out gfo.

Going to do 5 gallon water changes a week to see if I can get it down more.

If not I will get bio pellets and a reactor to bring it down more.

lpskeeper
05-02-2012, 01:44 PM
Getting new lights tek 6 bulb. Selling my old lights. It's nice having ro di when ever I need it.
Tanks on its way to getting a over haul. New stand need a new sump ato what not.

lpskeeper
05-02-2012, 01:45 PM
Po4 under control with no gfo or what not.