Auto Zeo. reactor

[Bogg]

Pretty self explanatory. Large pump on one side on a timer to stir the stones. Smaller main pump on the other for constant flow. Works great for a first attempt, with a half of a liter of stones the Eheim 1260 really churns the stones!.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/bogg2/086.jpg
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/bogg2/089.jpg

[SDguy]

Nice. How often does the "agitation" pump need to come on? And for how long?

[Bogg]

I think I'm going to take advantage of the large pump and have it go on twice at night probably for 1 min. each time during the dark period to try to maximize the mulm going to the polyps. During viewing hours it will make it a little cloudy.

[coral diver]

What are those stone Zeolite

[Bogg]

ZEOvit consists of three different sized untreated and all natural Zeoliths of highest quality. For best results it should be used in a filter. If used in combination with ZEObak and ZEOfood, ZEOvit will safely remove nitrate and phosphate from the aquarium. With patience and over time the water quality in your tank will reach nearly natural levels. This will result in natural colors and growth rates.

[Fish n' Frags]

To bad it doesn't fit, i wanted it. I know you built it bigger just so you could keep it Ryan.

[Bogg]

lol I did think about saying.. "I dont know Matt... I can't get it to work?" No, I'm going to see if joe wants this one he did sort of order one. It works great!. The stones churning is a site to see!. I can't believe I did'nt think of this years ago!. This one's up for grabs I dont have the large pump to run it currently anways, I tested it with my skimmers' Eheim 1260. If Joe does'nt want it it's mine!. The large footprint is the only downside. Hmmm I wonder if I can fenagel a smaller footprint one for you?. Hmmm 5x5 is it you say?.

[Fish n' Frags]

well, 5x5 for the 2nd compartment, but well,... yeah, thats about it.

[MichaelRyanSD]

Hey whats up...can I get in line for one of these...I already have a eheim 1260 and I am pretty sure I have plenty of room...

[WanaLeime]

Bogg is too smart for his own good, you should mass produce and make some SERIOUS $$$$$$$$.

[Bogg]

Here's a mini. :) (manual though for the smaller footprint)

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/bogg2/012-10.jpg

[Fish n' Frags]

Mine? Are you going to put a small barb connector on the bottom or something that will make it easier for me to hook up my rio? Umm, the outlet on my Rio is about the same if not the same as the outlet on a MJ.

[Bogg]

:D Your's is done also. I just need to pick up the bulkhead. YEAH!!.:D

[Fish n' Frags]

Just let me know, i'll be there. BTW, jesse called today and my controller will be delivered tomorrow. Can't wait to hook it up. Where would you mount it? PM ME

[j_electric]

Ryan I will go for one of the smaller ones , Don't get me wrong the auto one looks sick but I think it might be to big, pm price for the small one I would like to cruise by this weekend , I want to bring you a frag any ways

[coral diver]

I have activated carbon with zeolite granules for carbon filtration

[Bogg]

Matt tough call on the controller placement!.. I think it would look cool in the door but it would be nice to find a way that it wont get wet. I know the stand option might be ugly with all the wires but I like this option to have it away from the tank.

Joe np ygpm.

[Bogg]

My reactor had babies!.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/bogg2/003-11.jpg

[Fish n' Frags]

Ahhh, success feels good!

[jblaze]

what are the dimensions? Are you building them assuming an eheim would be used or can you use a Mag or whatever? Asking price?

[Malladawg]

I may be interested too. How much for one?

Thanks!

[Bogg]

I'm asking 150$ for the auto. Here's a large manual I just made for 1 litre it's going for 70$ and available. I'll have more ready soon if anyone needs one. LMK.
Large is SOLD I have a small version for 1/2 litre available for 50$.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/bogg2/022-5.jpg

[Hybrid]

My reactor had babies!.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/bogg2/003-11.jpg

Man, you are making this hard. I have been thinking about it for a long time but I am scared of killing my corals...

[maus]

Man, you are making this hard. I have been thinking about it for a long time but I am scared of killing my corals...

I'm setting up a 60 cube as a test tank, after seeing Bogg's tank again I was sold now that I can afford it. If it works well all my aquaculture tanks might end up running zeo... who knows?

[Malladawg]

What are the dimensions of the 1/2 litre? What kind of pump does it use?

Thanks.

[Bogg]

The auto one?. It's got a big footprint. I was using an Eheim 1260 and a quiet one 1200. I'm not sure how similar the Eheim in/out measurements are compared to others but it looks close to a sedra also. If you have to you could always put a larger/smaller nipple to make it work or even silicone tubing. It needs about a 10" x 10" area to be placed and about 22" heighth clearence. The minis have a 4x4 the larges are 5x5.

[Bogg]

I have a couple more large ones ready, these will hold up to 1 litre. $60 ea.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/bogg2/023-3.jpg

[Bogg]

I have two smalls available 50$ ea.

[FishBulb]

Hey bogg, I may be interested in a small (they look great). Could you tell me what water depth I would need in my sump to run it?

[Retzius]

I just got one today! I really like it, simple yet effective.

[Bogg]

Hey bogg, I may be interested in a small (they look great). Could you tell me what water depth I would need in my sump to run it?
You just need to get enough water in the sump so the pump does'nt suck any air. Mine is only in about 6" of water. hth.

[Bogg]

Auto one ready, this one holds 1 litre. 150$
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/bogg2/001-13.jpg

[Bogg]

Heres a 1260 pushing a litre and 1/4. Kiss those massive arm muscles goodbye!.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/bogg2/th_006-1-1.jpg (http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/bogg2/?action=view&current=006-1-1.flv)

[FishBulb]

Pretty cool bogg!

[Bogg]

ATTENTION: for anyone having a hard time pumping the stones. First of all make sure you dont have the reactor overloaded with stones. If you have the small version, your tank is probably about 40 to 70g of water so this is about a half a litre of stones. That's a half a bag of stones. I always tend to toss out the crimulents. You know those little itty bitty tiny stones in the bottom of the bag. These just tend to fall down into the pump anyways. Lately they have been sending in the zeolite bags some gynormous stones, I recomend you smack these huge ones with a hammer to bust them up. Ok these reactors are a copy of the original Madison (ouinla) designed reactor. I do feel bad how people are having a hard time with these but this design is commonplace througout the whole field of companys designing these reactors. The 2 to 400 dollars jam just the same and do the same thing as these. The whole jamming thing is something that everyone seems to have a hard time dealing with over on the zeo board also. It's just been this way throughout the years, that's why the auto design is so sought after. All the other expensive reactors are basicly the same design also, except for the ones that captive oceans attempted to make where there was a tube inside a tube. Well these were ruled out as insuficcent basicly because the flow is going to go around the tube holding the stones, not into it, common physics, You'll never know if you have the right flow going to the stones. So anyways back to dealing with the reactors jamming. I have found that the best way to deal with this is to just get the bottom plate of the reactor to rest half way up the tube, pull it up halfway up and see if you can get it to stay, or use a hook/ zip tie, something to get the perforated plate to rest halfway up the tube. Now when you go to pump the stones, place your hand on the top of the tube to hold it down, keeping in mind to try to keep the rod in one place as much as you can, straight up and down, You don't want to tilt it any, now your first pump is going to be a hard downwards motion, this is going to send a nice burst of water pressure down the tube and shoot the stones up in the tube. When the stones are all seperated in the tube, pull up hard to get back to your start point or higher up the tube as you can without the stones coming out of the tube. Now repeat this until your satisfied, I usually do this 20 to 40 times at night after the lights are out and sometimes once during the lit period. This is a chore but IMO it works lots better. When your done rest the plate back halfway up the tube. I'll post a video on how to do this also. If the plunger does get stuck just use short quick up and down pulling/pushing interval motions to get it released. HTH.

[GQJEFF]

Ryan, very nice bro.. You can still work on the biceps with some good ol 12 oz curls. Or if you like real beer get a oil can of fosters. Autralian for BEER in my best aussie voice LOL.

Jeff

[Bogg]

lol right. I can hear the didgeridoo in the background.

[Bogg]

Big thanks to Fishbulb and all the others that showed me the tube/internal tube design. I'll be working on these to add to the lineup.

[Diver Dan]

I need an Automatic Reactor for my 240 approximately 340 gallons of water, not including aragecrete structure...
LMK what you think I need
Thanks
Trever

[FishBulb]

No problem Bogg. If I ever get a bigger sump I'll have to get one of your automatic reactors. Let me know how the tube in tube design works for you. Make sure you use the o-ring trick to keep the water from bypassing the media. And post some pics if you build new reactors.

FB

[Bogg]

Ok, thanks again FB for your help it's what these place are for!. I can think of a few others though also lol. The auto is awesome ecspecially for vacations!.

Trevor not a problem I made several large ones for 2.5 litres. similar to this one but 4" tube
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/bogg2/012-11.jpg

[Bogg]

Pround to announce my new designed NO JAM 2 tube reactor. Thanks to fishbulb and Retzius for the idea!.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/bogg2/004-18.jpg

[481824]

Cool, that looks kind of like the one I made. I am not using it though. Why is the inner tube longer than the outer?

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n208/481824/IMG_5896.jpg

[FishBulb]

Looks great Bogg. A winner for sure.

481824,
I't ok if the inner tube is longer. As long as the tolerance between the two tubes is very close, you can put and oring around the inner tube and it will form a seal. Thus sending the water up the inner tube. It actually kind of helps to establish how much water is passing through the media versus bypassing.

FB

[481824]

Oh I see. Looks good Ryan.

[Bogg]

I made the inner tube larger as a hand hold so you can grab it there to pump it. Chris if you want you can bring me the small one I sold you for one of these, or I could see if I have the size of tube that will fit into the rxtr you have there.

[Bogg]

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/bogg2/th_091.jpg (http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/bogg2/?action=view&current=091.flv)

[Bogg]

I have a few of the 1-1 1/2 litre no jam reactors available. $70. With quiet one 1200 add $23.
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/bogg2/005-17.jpg

[Fish n' Frags]

Ryan, if this will fit in my 5x5 space, i still need to get a well working reactor. Let me know and i can make arrangements to pick up.

Thanks

[Bogg]

I have one, call me when your ready Matt.
858 722 9943.

[MFR]

with this new reactor. Way better than the last incarnation- great job Ryan!


MFR

[Bio-Nut]

Glad to see that you took my suggestion with the inner tube it work great and make it a lot easier for pulling out the media when it is no longer useful. I don't think the o-ring is required to make the sill.

this is why I made the top ring larger to create the sill
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd295/chian0076/Photo000.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd295/chian0076/Photo_04-2.jpg

[Bogg]

Glad to see that you took my suggestion with the inner tube it work great and make it a lot easier for pulling out the media when it is no longer useful. I don't think the o-ring is required to make the sill.

this is why I made the top ring larger to create the sill
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd295/chian0076/Photo000.jpg
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd295/chian0076/Photo_04-2.jpg


Yeah thanks for all the help!, Great idea!. Fishbulb and Retzius did the 2 tubed thing also a while back with a phosban reactor and one of my old piston style ones. They put out a video and it looked really cool so I wanted to have one and made my own version also. The one you made looks kool also and I'm jealous of your acess to all the cool tools!. Let's all rock the stones!.

[Bogg]

My new day glo tangerine dream LE 2xnj rxtr
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m99/bogg2/005-22.jpg

[FishBulb]

Haha I like it. I like it a lot.

[Retzius]

I like it too, looks KZish! Good job Ryan.